Catholicism currently attempts to incorporate notions of the personal and 'spirituality' into its more collectivist notions of belief and the need to have a religious community as well as an individual, personal experience of God because of the current state of culture. (McBrien 22-23) McBrien goes on to note that "real faith, living faith, if you will, exists always and only in cognitive, (more or less) reflective, (more or less) scientific state